a weakly basis- entirely our fault, and I knew there were core skills I was missing.
Andrew how did One Devonshire come about?
Well, One Devonshire was never my restaurant. I was employed as a Head Chef there.
Oh, OK I'd always assumed that it was yours in ownership.
One Devonshire, at that time, was an iconic hotel. It was one of the first what is now termed "Boutique" hotels in the UK, at that time.
Who owned it, Andrew?
Ken McCulloch owned it. It was a beautiful hotel. Very stylish and very service driven. Ken just called me up one day and said he was looking for someone to bring the Food and Beverage up to be inline with the reputation of the hotel, and was I interested. And at that time, my first daughter, Ilona was about 4½ , so we had to make the decision as to whether we were going to stay in France and keep her in school there or come back to Scotland. My wife by that time had had enough, she had been to Ireland, London, France and we had moved house nine times and she wanted to come back home and put down some roots. So I took the job at One Devonshire and in the first year we were awarded a star.
Was that part of your brief?
No, not at all and it wasn't something that I'd set out to do. It was probably my first real Head Chef role where I had the responsibility for my budgets, my staff, we had all the usual outlets that hotels have to deal with. For the first time it was my style of food and I was enjoying myself. I think I had set my own benchmark by that stage and without sounding arrogant or big headed, the Michelin star came relatively easy. It still came a huge surprise to get it that soon, but never the less fantastic.
And that again Andrew really raised your profile, didn't it?
Yes, it did. But I think One Devonshire was very, very well known and anything that I did was always going to be over-shadowed by the hotel. Ken (McCulloch) kept me very grounded - we had a business to run, customers to feed and ODG was always going to be his baby.
But was it the gaining of the Michelin Star that put Andrew Fairlie on the radar with The Gleneagles Hotel , how did that come about?
Gleneagles came about totally by chance. I came up to the hotel one day for an Academy Culinaire meeting and I met Alan Hill Food and Beverage Director and we were just having a chat because I had arrived early. I'd said it was a shame that somewhere as iconic as Gleneagles didn't have a smaller niche restaurant like it used to have and I think it just planted a seed with Alan.
Was that a conscious thing on your part where you sowing a seed?
No, no not at all. We were just sitting having a casual chat, that's all. When One Devonshire Gardens was sold Alan phoned me and said "Do you want to come up and have a chat? If you are thinking about doing something else, come up and see us before you make a decision". And that's what I did. I went up to see him, I think on the Wednesday and by the Friday I had agreed that I would come and by the following Friday we had signed the contract.
Blimey, that's fast work.
Yes, well it was an easy decision to make.
OK, you have been here 8 years now. How has your food style evolved during that period of time?
I think it is probably simpler and less fussy now than it was then. I think when I first opened Restaurant Andrew Fairlie at Gleneagles there was a huge pressure because of where we were. We really needed to hit the ground running. So I was very, very nervous, but the core staff all moved with me so I knew we would make it work. I had the rare opportunity to design my own restaurant and kitchen. I suppose I cooked the same food that I was cooking at One Devonshire except we didn't have to worry about room service or weddings any more. I really throw everything into it at the beginning. The food became much more detailed, not in a complicated way we just had much more time to concentrate on our cooking. We refined service and I suppose we got rid of everything that was frustrating about working for someone else. At the same time I knew I couldn't afford to fail. Gleneagles wouldn't allow me to fail. I probably over complicated things for myself and put too much pressure on myself during that time but as the years have gone by, I am a lot more confident about what we do. We've got total control over the restaurant and it has just grown organically.
Was it a conscious decision, for you and your team to get two Michelin stars?
It wasn't a conscious decision at all.
Did the Gleneagles hotel put any pressure on you, by saying "We want a Michelin starred restaurant"?
No, none what so ever. We actually have a perfect contract that we started with 8 years ago and we have never, not even once, pulled it out of the drawer and had a look at it. I think it is a win win situation for both Restaurant Andrew Fairlie and Gleneagles Hotel. No, there has never been any pressure at all. I think they knew me well enough and they knew that was the standard I was cooking at anyway. Yes. We were awarded our first star, pretty much immediately but we knew that within a couple of weeks we were cooking better than we ever did at ODG. We were awarded the second star after two years, which was an amazing feeling. What was really satisfying about it was that it was comfortable for us. We were cooking every day and really enjoying ourselves. If I had to get up every morning, thinking "Oh my god. I have got to run at 100 miles an hour to maintain this level of cooking; this standard" then I wouldn't do it.
It seems to me, and it is very apparent in the kitchen, that there is a great skill factor in there - you can see that. And it feels a very comfortable in there; a real pleasant environment to work in.
It is and I'm glad you noticed it.
And that doesn't always come at that level, lets be honest.
No, but I think that some chefs love that high-octane atmosphere of a really tough kitchen, I have been in enough kitchens now to know which I prefer and what works for me. I now surround myself with like-minded people I like, and have built a really solid and loyal team around me. If we evolve, naturally, as we have done so far and we keep adding to the restaurant and in 5, 10 15 years time, if Michelin then decide that we are a three star restaurant and we are not having to stress out about it or work ourselves into the ground every single day to maintain that, then great. But if it gets to the point when we are putting too much on our staff or myself then we stop.
One of the interesting things I heard, when we were doing the filming was your comment that you look at a dish and think "what can I take away from that?" When I saw your food today, it reminded me of my time in France. It's based, very much, on a quality product, great technical skill and using 2, 3 maybe 4 key components that work and marry well. There seems to be a lot of Chefs out there today, that say "I need to put something on it; something around it." Whereas you are almost thinking "Do we need that?" And I think that is really refreshing. You can look at your dish and think "That's it; that is enough."
Yes I do now, but I think that only comes with maturity and confidence. I have been looking at Japan and I am very interested in their philosophy on food, purely because of the simplicity of it. It's the essence of capturing that ingredient at its peak; enhancing the flavour of it and then presenting it. It's brilliant in its simplicity. Most of the great chefs working today have all been to, and have been influenced by Japan. I remember eating Joel Robuchon's food a number of times when he was cooking at his peak in Paris and thinking, how can this be any more perfect. He then spent a few years in Japan and I'm sure he would agree that's its had a profound influence on his food.
Yes, I think Japan has got more Michelin starred restaurants than any other city, hasn't it?
Yes, Kyoto, and Osaka has just come on this year and Tokyo has now more 3 star restaurants than anywhere in the world. There has to be something in that
Andrew, one thing I wanted to touch on, was you became very ill. You had a brain tumour. Yes. Obviously, that is an incredibly serious illness. How much did it change you and you thinking? Did it change your outlook on work and life?
Strangely enough no. When I was diagnosed as having a brain tumour I had to get surgery; I had to get it removed. And talking to my doctors and surgeons at the time they said "When you come through this at the other end there is all sorts of emotions you are going to go through" and they tried to prepare me for the worst, I suppose. And, yes, people do come out of serious illnesses like that and they divorce their wife; and change their career or they go through deep depression or something radical has to change.
And lets be honest, you are in a very high-pressured job anyway.
Yes, but I guess I was almost waiting for this depression to set in; the stress to tell . . . and it didn't. And my surgeon said "Well, Andrew it just lets you see that what you were doing before was actually alright. You don't have to change anything." I had a pretty balanced lifestyle before, so I just got back to health and carried on from where I was before.
It's great to see you looking so well. Finally, Andrew, what does the future hold for Andrew Fairlie? Another Restaurant Andrew Fairlie.
I could never do another Andrew Fairlie, this is unique; this has been 8 years in the making. I can't divide Andrew Fairlie to go and do Andrew Fairlie in London or anywhere else, it is just not possible. I need to expand; I need to do other things both for myself and for the team. I have any incredibly loyal team - Steve my chef, Dale my manager and Gavin my sommelier, all these guys have been with me throughout. I need to move up in order for them to expand themselves. So we are at the stage now, where we are looking to do other things as long as it doesn't compromise what we have here. This is always going to be the nucleolus of anything that we do from now on. But there are books, media, other things that I can do. I do a bit of consultancy at the moment which I am enjoying.
So have you got a book planned?
Yes, we are looking at a restaurant book at the moment. As soon as I decide what I want it to be and what I want it to look like.
I know a very good website that can run a competition on that, if you want to?
(Laughter) I'll give them to you at half price!!
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