and delegate, so how important is it that you have a strong person that can run the kitchen in your absence.
To be honest, that is the crucial part of any kitchen.
You do seem to be "Good Cop; Bad Cop" to a degree?
Yes, I would say so. And I would say that is probably how I have seen every kitchen operate. But Scott has got a fantastic palette; he's young and enthusiastic. He's one of those guys, who has come in; he's landed straight on it in a very difficult situation - my last Head Chef was with me for six years; he was a fantastic cook as well "¦
Where has he gone, then?
He's gone to Restaurant Alimentum in Cambridge.
Oh, yes, Mark Poynton
Yes, he's a brilliant cook and it was great to see him flourish, and what I want to see with Scott is the same. I don't want the food to change but I do want it to develop and become more sexy and more flowing. I just love working with guys that are keen and want it just as much as I do.
So how are you developing your food, then?
For me, the taste is the most important thing. Presentation has always come into it but it's got to taste nice in your mouth first. At the end of the day, people are coming out for a good meal; this is a business; it's got to be a business; the minute it is not a business and it becomes just a passion I'll be closed in a year because I won't make any money. And that is the thing, I have a lot of salaries to pay; I've got lots of maintenance to do and it's about keeping the customers happy and making sure I have got a level balance between my outlook on the food and making sure the customers want to eat what I want to put on the plate.
Yes, it is a business and I looked at your website and I noticed you have got a pub.
Yes.
How important is that? I mean, there is this myth that Michelin star restaurants don't make money. Is it a case that this is a Showcase for you and the pub supports that?
No, we were in the middle of a recession, and I will be totally honest with you, Midsummer made more money than the pub last year and the reason that is, is that for ten years I have tried to shake this reputation that Midsummer had of being a "Special occasion" restaurant.
Do you think that is changing now? I mean, I went to The Ledbury and what I liked about it was that you didn't feel you had to over dress to go there.
No, my Manager doesn't wear a tie "¦ and I don't make my manager shave and when he first joined he had just come from Marcus (Waring) at Petrus and he walked through the door and I said to him "Take your tie off" because as far as I am concerned I want my customers to feel relaxed.
But there is this perception that Michelin star restaurants are either for the very elite or they are one off occasions.
Yes, but it shouldn't be like that.
No, it shouldn't.
Because nowadays you can go to an average restaurant and pay as much there as you would for lunch here but here you would get precise cooking; you'll get great service and what I am trying to get across to the customer is that it is relaxed. I don't want it to be a stressed environment and that helps me be relaxed. Because if I am stressed, you will feel it across the whole place. If I am in a great mood; If I can control my temper the restaurant will be a great success - and it has taken me a long time to realise that.
So, going forward then Daniel. You have got two Michelin stars; you have got the pub; you've got a business partner in place; you are making money here - where are you going as a business?
I've done a lot of TV in the last couple of years.
How important is that? I saw The Great British Menu.
I have decided that my TV career is not the avenue that I want to go down.
Why is that?
I am the sort of person that loves being in my kitchen too much and I don't think the spotlight is where I want to be.
Does one not feed the other?
I think The Great British Menu helps with PR, there is no doubt about that but it doesn't give me the satisfaction that the restaurant does. For me, I know I work five days a week; I am away from home five days a week, but those two days a week are very special to me and those two days off a week are the reason I work the five, so I can look after my kids and my partner and give them a life that I didn't have. I think that is very, very important but also I want to educate my kids. They ate here last week and for me, for my kids to eat five courses, and one of them is only 6 years old, that is fantastic.
How old are your kids?
I have got one of 10; one of 9; one of 6 and one that's 1 and one that is going to be very shortly, so I am a busy man.
Is that the reason you had to answer your phone earlier, just in case? (Laughter)
Yes. Well I have to be honest; I have five girls - the new ones a girl too.
Oh, you know that already?
Yes, I really wanted a little boy but "¦
That's the excuse is it? So we can expect another 6? (Laughter)
No, that's it now. I've decided that, hopefully, one of the girls will come in and they will take over because that's what I want; I want Midsummer to carry on in a route that one of my kids wants it to, even if they don't want to continue down my route I would still like one of them to take it over because I love food and I love going out to eat and I think it's food that brings people together, and that is what we all forget about.
You have had a fantastic career, Daniel even before Midsummer but who do you think has been the biggest influence in your career?
I would say my trip to France. I worked for Chef called Jean Bardet, which was an inspiration because it wasn't about pretty pictures on a plate, it was all about the quality of ingredients and how they were cooked. Over in France the Foie Gras doesn't come in vac-packs it comes in tissue paper and they slice it completely differently; they cook it differently and it can be a piece of Foie Gras with Fig Chutney and that will be it, but when I first got to France I didn't understand it.
How long were you in France for?
I was there for 9 months. And I got a job afterwards to go to a three star restaurant, and to be honest, my old Head Chef, Simon Gueller was pulling me to come back to England; I looked at the three star restaurant - in hindsight I wish I had gone but "¦
Where was Simon at the time?
He had just opened Rascasse and he was asking me to go up and be his Senior Sous, and at the end of the day it has all fallen into place because I wouldn't be at Midsummer now if I hadn't have come back.
It's funny how life works, isn't it?
It is because nowadays you can learn do much from the people you work with but there has to come a time where you put your own b***s on the line and open your own place. Some people achieve it and some don't. You can work with 100 chefs but only 5 will go out and get their own stars. That doesn't mean to say they are bad cooks, it just means they have gone down a different avenue. It is a very difficult industry to be in.
Last, but by no means least, Daniel can you tell us about the dish you are going to cook for us today?
Well, the dish today is the newest dish on the menu; I wanted to show you a cold dish; using a new technique. The dish is Salad of Squid, Red Vein Sorrel, Bavette of Beef, Sautéed Calamari, Citrus Oil.
That sounds fantastic. Let's go through to the kitchen and see you in action. Thank you Dan.
Thank you.
