would be relaxed and ready to go and be able to make enough money to have a half decent lifestyle out there... so that is what happened.
Carl, how have you developed and improved as a manager and a chef whilst working under RB and Gary?
I suppose knowledge from when I first started to where I am now, from working in different restaurants around the world; Although we are all still learning it's nice to be able to show the new guys when they come into the kitchen new skills that I've learnt over the years from RB and Gary. Different techniques - that's probably one of the biggest things I have learnt.
For me, one of the things I always notice about the guys from Le Manoir is it's not just about the food on the plate every single product within that process - from where it grows; where it originates - RB is passionate about all that and he just in-stills that in everyone, doesn't he?
Yes, I think Le Manoir is a very different restaurant to a lot of other restaurants around. Just look at where we are - we are not in a major city; we're in a little country village with these outstanding gardens and massive amounts of our products are home grown and all organic. How many restaurants in London can go outside and into the garden and pick a bunch of strawberries here or potatoes or leeks or go into the poly-tunnels where we keep all the micro herbs - picked fresh in the morning, there is not many restaurants than can do that? And the guests can walk around and see all that and share that. You've got the pond, the gardens and the Japanese Tea Garden, the Orchard - a lot of people will come in for lunch at 12 O'clock and won't leave until 6 because they are able to enjoy all those aspects.
Yes, I saw a lot of people scattered around in various corners today.
Yes, there is a lot more to it than just coming in for lunch and going and that's something RB is very proud of.
Carl, what has been you single most professional challenge since being at Le Manoir? And how have you overcome this?
Umm, for me I suppose taking a little bit of a step back from being one of the guys from when I started. When I went to Sous Chef, from being a Chef de Partie where you are running a section to then taking that next step to Sous Chef, you have to be a little bit more distant from the guys.
You can't be one of the boys I guess?
Yes, exactly. You can get on with the guys but you are in a different sort of category because you have got to discipline them and gain their respect.
I guess it's taking that first rung onto the management ladder really, isn't it?
Yes, I think they see that as well. And I think that anybody who is a good Sous Chef or Head Chef, obviously, know that as well. That for me was probably the biggest challenge.
How did you go about making that change then? How did you break away from the team?
Well, I looked at the people that were already in front of me - I looked at the Sous Chef's to see how they operated.
And who were the Sous Chefs at Le Manoir at that time?
Chris Horridge.
Ok, yes.
Adam Simmons was Sous Chef as well. I looked at those guys and would see how they would interact with the team; how they would work, and how they would speak to the guys. It's a very different role looking after every station and making sure we are set for lunch - very different from looking after one section.
And how do you feel now, are you comfortable in that role now?
Yes, very comfortable. It was a big step taking on the Head Chef role because the person before me was obviously Agnar Sverrisson, who is now at Texture and as far as I know we are the only two that have been Head Chef's under Gary, so it was a real honour to take on that role.
That's a very big responsibility, isn't it? Head Chef at Le Manoir.
Yes, it is. It is a big kitchen - we have 45 Chefs in the kitchen and we set an extremely high standard that we have to meet.
And a worldwide reputation?
Exactly. So, yes it was a big challenge but I like a challenge and I have Gary and a great team.
Absolutely. Carl, how much importance do you place on training for you in your role, and your team, and how important is training, as a whole, to Le Manoir aux Quat Saisons?
I think training is a massive part of the future development of any cook or chef and it's something that we are really focusing on. Any training courses or stagès - any of those sorts things are good motivators for the chefs; ensuring that you don't stay stagnant and that you keep moving forward.
Carl, I think one of the things that I have noticed at Le Manoir over the last 6/8 years is that there has been a whole change of culture and it has become very, very people focused.
Yes, it has changed a lot since I first started here, we want to exceed the standard, but reduce the hours, look after the people that work with us.
You are investing in the people far more?
Yes, I think the whole HR role has moved on - we have three people looking after that area now.
Yes, and that commitment and help from HR has got to help you because you can only get a consistent product if your team are happy; focused; trained and they stay for a long time.
Yes, definitely it makes a big difference if you know you are going to have a Chef de Partie that is going to be here for 2/3/4 years - you get the consistency and that is very important especially at this level.
Carl, last question. What are you looking to gain from Le Manoir? In terms of your own personal development and what are you looking to gain from Le Manoir with regards to career opportunities?
When I took the role on I had a criteria of what I wanted to get out of the job and what they would get out of me in return.
And what was that?
I wanted to be involved in food costs, menu planning, obviously looking after the guys from day to day, constantly trying to hit the standards everyday - even when Gary is away. But I wanted RB's and Gary's help, to help me set up my own thing at the end of the day.
Yes, earlier you mentioned Aggi and there is no doubt that Aggi is a phenomenal cook - we can all see that, but I guess nowadays being a phenomenal cook is not enough to set yourself up in business you have to have other skills - you need to be able to balance the books.
Yes. You need to be able to make money. I think there are a lot of chefs out there who are great cooks, but if you can't manage the books then you are not going to have the restaurant.
Yes, and if it's your business it's your money!
Yes, at the end of the day we are all here to make money.
So where is Carl Newberry going to be in five years? It's OK I am not interviewing you, by the way! (Laughter)
That's a good question and hopefully in a year's time I will have a good answer for you! (Laughter)
Fair enough.
I haven't planned it yet.
Is your own place part of the plan?
Possibly. But it's still early days in my role as Head Chef I've still a huge amount to learn from Gary and RB.
Carl, thank you very much for talking to us today.
Thank you.