to find your own niche?
No, I think the personality I have and the way I approach food has been there since day one. I’ve taken influences from all of the chefs I’ve ever worked with but I’ve always been able to find my own personal ethos and which way I would like to conduct myself. I only worked in kitchens until I felt I had taken everything I need from them – Paris was the only one I regretted leaving.
There was a bit of sexism, I was desperate to get off pastry and on my days off I’d come in and help the lads on the larder. They sat me down and said you’re a woman and head pastry chef is as senior as you can get in our kitchen’. So I left, which I shouldn’t have because there are things I learnt in that kitchen I still use today. The mind set there was unacceptable but perhaps I could have continued to strive to learn there and not heeded their advice to know my place. As much as I regret leaving I've always been proud that I never listened to anyone who told me I couldn't do something.
So has being a woman been an issue throughout your time in the industry?
I always compare myself to a short, skinny man as in they would have the same challenges I had – you have to own your presence, not second guess yourself in front of people because they will assume you are small and weak. So I feel for any of those little, short men out there because I’ve been through the same thing!
I’m a big fan of woman, encouraging woman. I think that’s how the boys have done so well for so long! I always have women in my kitchen, when I was in Pied a Terre I was the only one for a year and a half but that was a notoriously aggressive kitchen.
And you’re at Bob Bob Ricard now, what’s the brigade and kitchen like there?
It’s massive! You can have 18 chefs on a shift. I’ve been very hands on while I’m building my team, once it’s built I’ll be supporting them and keeping them on track. When it comes to menu changes I’ll still be in charge of that. We will be opening a second site next year so it’s in my interest to make sure the team is rock solid.
What are your plans for the restaurant?
I’m hoping I can bring the food to match the amazing ambience and service it has here already. The service is fantastic and it’s the first place I’ve worked where I think I’ve got to up my game to match them out front.
All of the detail we are going in to so everything matches the food, I can’t tell you how exciting it is. And its fine dining, no one does fine dining anymore and it’s so cool. I love fine dining, I see it as such a treat and a luxury plus the idea of the technique and knowledge going behind the food too. It’s not just something which looks pretty and sound fashionable – the menu is very classic in a lot of ways.
It’s about creating the most delish and elegant food we can that the guests will want. A huge focus here is lobster, truffle, caviar, wild sea bass – its high quality and I have the budget.
Talk us through the menu which has several Russian classics on it as well as French, and the changes you are making.
We are refining the food. I love French food it’s what I believe in and its part of the reason I have taken this job. I love places that do fine dining correctly, so it’s steeped in a classic recipe and it’s brought into a more lighter, more modern and fresh version. There’s not that many places like that anymore and here is a place I’m able to do that.
We sell more caviar than Harrods or Selfridges! We do Russian dumplings, (pelmeni) and we try to do a more luxurious version than they would have been. Originally they were made to get people through the winter and they would be left in bags outside because it was so cold t was like a freezer, so they are cooked from frozen. It’s the most popular starter because it’s rare to get an authentic Russian meal. So those few little Russian treats are staying on the menu.
Is Russian cuisine something you had cooked before?
No but it’s incredibly interesting and it’s not a million miles away from any developed cuisine – there are strong recipes with strong histories. They use pancakes like crepes, dumplings like gnocchi – there are loads of similarities so it’s not difficult to understand the cuisine. It’s just not well known.