Pig?
I'd say staffing which I think is everybody’s problem at the moment.
So how do you combat that? What do you put in place, you’ve got 12 boys in the kitchen how do you hold on to them?
Keeping the guys involved and interested in what you’re doing is important we have enough going on in the kitchen at the moment for the guys to really learn and see lots of exciting things. We make sure that the guys give as much input to the menus as we can. We run The Piggy Bits section on the top of the menu and we try and get the guys to put different bits on so it keeps them thinking. Training with our fish supplier, sending them down to our butcher, everybody in the kitchen gets involved in the curing processes and the smoking processes. So I think these are all skills that they wouldn’t necessarily learn elsewhere. I think as we’re getting a bigger name for ourselves and as The Pig is evolving it’s bec

oming a lot easier. We've found this time round it has eased but at the beginning when we opened it was quite tough especially being a new place, when you’re new people don’t know anything about you and it’s very hard to see or understand, your passion and philosophy.
From what we've seen today you've very much got a garden to kitchen concept as much as you can, do you think that's the way food’s going?
I think it’s the way food should be.
Why?
Because it’s all about the flavour, it’s all about the freshness, it’s all about knowing how your food has been grown. There's that age-old argument something that’s grown next to your doorstep as opposed to something that's flown over on a plane, it’s night and day in flavour. The Pig, this house would have functioned as we are functioning, The Pig would have had a kitchen garden, The Pig would have had livestock, they would have used the forest quite heavily to subsidise bits and pieces within their kitchen so I think we're bringing it back to the way it should be. I mean look at France these guys they’ve been doing it for yonks and we were doing it before the war but unfortunately a lot of the knowledge that we had in this country as far as growing and keeping livestock just sadly got lost
And supermarkets came in didn’t they?
Well exactly yes but you look at the people that came back from the war and look at the allotments that sprung up, I mean my great grandfather he had an allotment and he would spend his w

hole time growing veg.
I'm older than you and I can remember digging potatoes and eating them from the garden but we've lost that.
Exactly but because there wasn't that concentration of knowledge…
And people work longer now…
Exactly.
…and the wife has a job and so on.
But it became a lot easier to just go out and buy food and I think the more people that do it the more they’re going to understand why it’s good to do it yourself.
Is this garden to plate concept in danger of it becoming a bandwagon though?
I think that anything that’s done well is always probably a catch and there's those people that are going to think they can make money out of it.
Last question for you then if I may, Savoy, Mark Hix, Soho House New York, FJB Hotels, great career, you’re now head chef, high profile operation here, but where is this part of your career going to take you in five years time? What’s the ultimate goal for you
In five years time I'd still want to be a part of The Pig, I mean we're already looking at rolling out another couple of Pigs.
…I think that so much of myself is in The Pig, Robin Hutson launched it, but obviously there's a group of people that have really poured their heart and soul into this and I think to just drop it and do something else would be crazy. I just want to show the country a piece of what we do and make it a complete success…
Could that mature into a group role?
I would hope so.
Well listen thank you very much for seeing me, I wish you every success in the future.
Thank you very much.
It’s great to come down and talk to you. Thank you.
Good to meet you.
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